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Thank you, operator.
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Good morning, everyone.
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We need to establish a quorum.
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Agenda clerk, can
you please call the roll.
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Commissioner Shiroma.
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Present.
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Commissioner Guzman Aceves.
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Here.
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Commissioner Randolph.
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Here.
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Commissioner Rechtschaffen.
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Present.
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President Batjer.
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Here.
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We have established quorum.
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Welcome to the California
Public Utilities Commission.
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I'm calling this meeting
of, August 17th, 2020,
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public agenda number 3467 to order.
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Due to the Coroner Virus pandemic,
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and the Shelter in Place order,
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we're conducting
today's business meeting
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online and by remote participation.
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The meeting is live streamed
on the CPUC's website.
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You can view the meeting at
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www.adminmonitor.com/ca/cpuc.
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Adminmonitor is one word.
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A-D-M-I-N-M-O-N-I-T-O-R.
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As we are all aware,
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unexpected power supply interruptions
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and high demand during this past weekend
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of record breaking high temperatures
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resulted in the California
Independent System Operator
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initiating rotating
outages across the state,
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causing tens of
thousands of Californians
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to lose power on Friday
and Saturday evenings.
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The CUPC is continuing to actively
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monitor the changing
conditions that have led to
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the rotating power outages this weekend.
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We were working very closely
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and coordinate coordinating with CAISO,
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the Governor's office
of emergency services,
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the California Energy
Commission, and others
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to ensure that we maintain
focus on the public safety
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and emphasize the importance
of energy conservation
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to reduce the strain
on the electric supply
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that can lead to rotating power outages
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during stage three emergencies.
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With several more days of
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record high temperatures forecasted,
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and the added challenges of
the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic,
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we must do everything
we can to support efforts
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to ensure the reliable
operation of our electricity grid.
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The importance of
voluntary energy conservation
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has never been greater.
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We are asking all Californians to do
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your part in reducing energy usage,
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health permitting, and to
the extent you're able to
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safely and comfortably do so,
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please, please take
action to do the following.
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Keep your lights off to
the extent safely possible,
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including exterior lights
that may be on a timer.
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Set your thermostat
to 78 degrees or higher,
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and turn your air conditioner
off when not at home.
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Move any furniture blocking vents
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to be sure air is flowing efficiently.
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Charge your laptop and cell phone
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before 3:00 PM or after 10:00 PM.
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Hang dry your clothes
instead of using your dryer.
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Unplug energy vampires when not in use,
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such as televisions, game console,
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and standby coffee makers.
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And your cell phone plugs.
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Use a fan instead of
your air conditioner.
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Cover your windows to keep
sunlight from heating your home.
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Cook using your stove, microwave,
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or outside grill instead of your oven.
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Limit opening your
refrigerator and your freezer.
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These are critical
things that we all must do
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to weather this difficult
weather and to protect
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our fellow Californians
from rolling blackouts.
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Please everyone, conserve,
conserve, conserve.
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Moving onto the public
comment section of our agenda.
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Public engagement is
critical to the CPUC process.
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If you wish to make a public comment,
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dial into 8008571917,
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and enter passcode,
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9899501,
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and press, star one.
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You will be placed into a queue,
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and the operator will take
your name and organization.
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You will be called upon to speak
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when you get to the public
comment period in today's agenda.
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Email comments
received will be distributed
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to the Commissioners
and senior management.
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CPUC rules do not allow
for parties in proceedings
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to speak about the open proceedings.
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The public can make
comments addressing items
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on the consent and regular agendas,
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and including items
not on the agenda today.
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Please note, there will
not be public comment
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on any item on the
closed session agenda.
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You will have two minutes to speak.
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With that guidance in mind,
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I welcome today's speakers.
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I will now turn to the operator
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to open the public
comment telephone lines.
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Operator?
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The first
comment is from Alern Delil,
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your line is now open.
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Hello?
Can you hear me?
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Yes, we can Miss Delil.
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Yes, we can hear you.
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Thank you so
much for this opportunity
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to address the Commission.
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I would just give you a quick note,
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I hope this doesn't count on my time,
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because as of 10 o'clock last night,
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your calendar did not
show a meeting today.
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There was a brief message that item one,
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whatever that is, would be on hold
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if you went to another
part of the website.
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So it was very confusing to even know
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if there was a meeting today.
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I want to address the Commissioners,
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and thank you for the
work you've been doing.
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And also to say that
I'm speaking on behalf of
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people who have wanted to thank
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the Executive Director, Alice Stebbins,
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for her work on behalf
of people with disabilities.
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As you know, power outages,
put people with disabilities
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at huge risk of damage
are even loss of life.
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And so we have been asking Miss Stebbins
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to please ask if the utilities take
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remediative measures to make sure that
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these power outages
do not endanger people.
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And we've asked for assistance in buying
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battery backup systems,
which have not happened.
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We found out that the SGIP,
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which is supposed to be a grant program,
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requires the expenditure of
thousands of dollars upfront.
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One vendor told me
that I might get 80% back,
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but it would take over a year.
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And the problem is that
most people with disabilities
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don't have thousands
of dollars lying around,
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even though this is
a critical issue for us.
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So we're asking the public
utilities Commissioners
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to make sure that these
utilities that cut off our power
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have a way for us to prepare
for their power outages.
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So far, there is no way to do that.
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And so on behalf of the people that
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I'm going to name to you,
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we wanna thank Miss Stebbins
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for all of her work on our behalf
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and hope that she can
continue to represent us.
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I'm speaking on behalf of
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Simitre Joy, Catherine
Campeasey, Carlos Benavides,
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Donna Kalama JD, Eugene Losano jr,
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Julie and Marie Ciacone,
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Megan Grenada, ADRC program manager,
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Kisia Weller, Phills Divers,
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Diana Rattly, and Paulette Profoconti.
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Veda Florez,
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president, League of Women
Voters of Napa County.
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Alice Brown, Robert Parks,
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Lily Beth Navarro,
CALIF Executive Director.
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Pillar Cole, Michael
Levinson, Daily City.
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Susan Chandler,
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Member of California
for Disability Rights,
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and ex-President.
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Tara Heirs, Gare Rial.
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Mario Jenison, Janie
Whiteford, Cindy Jones,
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Yu Chen Lynn, Eric Satamere,
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Judy Lan Duba, Walt Duba,
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Janet Renison, David Klingerman,
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Charles Beams, Don Carney,
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Carol Brock Cole,
Maryland Golden, Kim Letrup,
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Ralph Black, Grace Lyn,
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Young Yang Lyn,
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Claude Everett,
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Niel Jacobson, Kim Letrup,
Mark Hall, Cindy Soto,
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Marine Donahoe, Adrian
Lobby, Janis Santos,
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Carol Stockton, Roger
Stratton, Alice Marinos.
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President for California
for Disability Rights,
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Kathleen Barahas.
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Shira Leader, Ruthie Goldcon,
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Richard Daggett, president
Polio Survivors Association.
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Janet Renison, David
Klingerman, Charles Beem,
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Don Carney, Carol Brock, Marilyn Golden,
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Kim Letrop, Ralph Black.
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Hello?
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What is going on?
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Hello?
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What is going on please?
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I'm trying to read this list.
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Hello?
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Hello?
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I don't understand what's going on.
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Janet?
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Hello?
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Hello?
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What is going on?
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What is going on, please?
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I'm trying to read this list.
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Hello?
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I don't understand what's happening.
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President Batjer,
I think it's repeating
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happening in our speakers.
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Okay.
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Can the operator hear me?
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It sound like the voice got
trapped in a loop, somehow.
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Yeah, can the operator hear me?
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Robert, are you on the line?
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Hello?
Yes, I can hear you.
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We had real difficulties
with the last caller.
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It sounded like there
were two or three people
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on the line with her.
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I'm not sure she could
hear her warning bell
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at the three minute time period also.
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Excuse me, at the
two minute time period.
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So anyway, I'm sorry to
Miss Delil, what happened.
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I'm not sure of the
technical difficulties,
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it sounded like you had multiple people
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and you continue to read the same names.
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I don't understand what happened.
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So operator, can you
bring on the next caller?
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The next
caller is Michael Peck.
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Your line is now open.
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Thank you so much
for your time this morning.
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I'm a Los Angeles Department
of Water and Power rate payer.
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And I've got an interesting
idea where I think
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with the help of this Commission, LADWP,
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and the state as a whole can accelerate
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our conversion to green power
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in a way that I think is
better for all rate payers.
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I'm on a residential solar, generator,
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and with LEDWP they
have two systems, right?
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They have a feeding tariff system
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that only applies to generators
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as little as 30 kilowatt
hours of capacity.
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Which I know we're
getting kind of wonky here,
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but that's much too big for
really any residential producer.
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Pretty much taking residential producers
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out of the feeding tariff program.
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Second program they have
is a net metering program.
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But with that producers that produce
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excess amounts of energy
throughout the whole year,
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they bank their credits
in a net metering bank
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that they have no recourse actually
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to be able to pull any
money out of that system.
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So, I'll produce power,
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for example, with my system,
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because I maxed out
my installation on my roof
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thinking that that was the
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greenest and most efficient thing to do
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at the time of installation.
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But if I remove all of
those net metering credits
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that I've banked over
years can get lost,
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basically forfeiting that to LADWP.
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Of course, as an
individual I'd like to see
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my investment do the best they can.
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But I think this issue
of course is much larger
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than my individual problem.
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Because of this,
installers and purchasers
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of home solar systems
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are dis-incentivized to
max out their installations.
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And their incentive is to only build
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just as large as they
could possibly use.
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And so in this way, I think LADWP
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is dis-incentivizing as
much residential solar
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as they could possibly be building.
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And in effect stealing
any additional power
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that these residential
solar generators create.
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I'd like to see a system where
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residential solar
generators could buy back
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or pull out cash from
their net metering banks
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at a rate below wholesale rates,
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but still at a significant rate
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so that they would get
some sort of financial benefits
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for the excess power they generate.
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Thereby making it advantageous for LADWP
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to encourage residential solar
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because of course they
would get that power generation
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at a lower than wholesale rate.
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But still give some benefits to
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residential solar customers
for installing systems
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that properly utilize
the full capacity of
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their roof or residential space.
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So thank you very much
for you hearing this out.
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Hopefully, you can kind of
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oversee the scope of this issue,
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that it's of course beyond
just my sort of personal issue.
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But given that we're at
a the cost of California
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over a million solar roofs in
the state and growing rapidly,
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and particularly today with
rates as low as they are,
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and it's being as easy as ever
00:16:35.380 --> 00:16:39.170
for people to install
solar on their rooftops.
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This to me seems like
a really solid win-win
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for rate payers overall,
00:16:43.720 --> 00:16:46.490
whose rates should go down as a whole,
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as more cheap residential
solar comes onto the system.
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As well as DWP getting
more of their green targets
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established faster as solar
installations accelerate.
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And hopefully this same
situation applies across the state.
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It's really difficult
to find information
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on how other utilities across
the state handle net metering.
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LADWP of courses is huge,
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but hopefully this has
broader implications
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for the Commission as a whole.
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Thanks for your time.
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Thank you.
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Thank you.
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Operator, the next caller, please.
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The next caller is
00:17:29.100 --> 00:17:31.970
Connie Arnold,
disability rights activists.
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Your line is now open.
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Hi, good morning.
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Thank you for letting me speak.
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I'm calling, basically, I support
00:17:41.080 --> 00:17:43.473
Alice Stebbins and her
staff who've been working
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to develop real mitigation
measures that have protected
00:17:47.559 --> 00:17:49.970
and work to protect vulnerable seniors
00:17:49.970 --> 00:17:52.030
and people with disabilities from
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the dangerous effects of
electric utility, de-energization.
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And we really can't afford to change
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a good person in management
in the middle of this process.
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And I'm reminded of that old saying,
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don't throw the baby
out with the bath water.
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Which means don't fire Miss Stebbins,
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who has been working
on behalf of rate payers,
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and those members in the community
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who are part of the wider
disproportionately impacted
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senior and persons with
disabilities negatively impacted
00:18:22.760 --> 00:18:26.471
during electric utility
de-energization events,
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PSPS events, and sudden OES initiated
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brownouts and blackouts
that just happened
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across the state without
warning and little notice at all
00:18:35.600 --> 00:18:38.760
to the disability community
or in senior community.
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The role of the Commission is to conduct
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fair and ethical proper oversight
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of private for profit utilities,
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and hold them accountable in the public,
00:18:47.290 --> 00:18:49.120
not personal interests.
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In the public interest,
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you should not even
consider firing Alice Stebbins,
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given the amount of media
and press on the co-mingling
00:18:56.440 --> 00:18:59.190
of past and present
special interest matters
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by the dysfunctional CPUC.
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It would appear that any
firing of Alice Stebbins
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to me is likely personal,
part of dirty politics,
00:19:08.390 --> 00:19:10.160
and would just be part of
00:19:10.160 --> 00:19:12.680
the longterm dysfunction of the PUC
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and their compromised acceptance
00:19:14.400 --> 00:19:17.080
and intermingling
with utility lobbyists,
00:19:17.080 --> 00:19:18.610
which itself should be what needs
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investigation, auditing, and correction
00:19:21.080 --> 00:19:23.290
for the benefit of the public.
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Getting money out of
politics is a bigger goal.
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And either that, or
some means of restoring
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the public interest trust,
00:19:30.750 --> 00:19:34.140
which Miss Stebbins efforts
have finally worked towards.
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It appears the Commission
has an ax to grind
00:19:36.450 --> 00:19:39.410
when it was Miss Alice
Stebbins that found
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millions in money owed
to the state by utilities.
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Maybe the real reason anyone would want
00:19:45.160 --> 00:19:48.200
to fire Miss Stebbins is
they are trying to protect
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those moneyed interests from paying up
00:19:50.820 --> 00:19:52.810
what they owe the state of California,
00:19:52.810 --> 00:19:54.210
or from further audits.
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Because rather than protecting
00:19:56.630 --> 00:19:58.425
the public interest of Californians,
00:19:58.425 --> 00:20:01.280
they really have something
to gain by protecting
00:20:01.280 --> 00:20:04.560
the electric utility companies
and moneyed interests,
00:20:04.560 --> 00:20:07.700
rather than a good public
official like Alice Stebbins,
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Executive Director of the CPUC,
00:20:09.733 --> 00:20:11.960
who is viewed as getting in the way of
00:20:11.960 --> 00:20:15.760
free gifts lobbyist bringing
to the Commissioner's table,
00:20:15.760 --> 00:20:18.940
personal or campaign
coffers or travel in some way
00:20:18.940 --> 00:20:22.400
like those compromised
at the past Maui event,
00:20:22.400 --> 00:20:26.030
while California was on fire
and people burned to death.
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I read on the website,
the role of the CPUC,
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its role and responsibilities
are to regulate
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privately owned electric, natural gas,
00:20:37.420 --> 00:20:41.223
telecommunications, and other things.
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And that five Governor
appointed Commissioners
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are dedicated to ensuring consumers have
00:20:48.410 --> 00:20:52.240
safe, reliable utility
service at reasonable rates,
00:20:52.240 --> 00:20:54.250
protecting against fraud and promoting
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the health of California's economy.
00:20:57.420 --> 00:20:59.490
It reminds me of another saying about
00:20:59.490 --> 00:21:01.430
the fox guarding the hen house,
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or goose that laid the golden egg.
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Firing Alice Stebbins is
not in the public interest.
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And I think it's time
that the CPUC uphold
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its values of accountability,
excellence, integrity,
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open communication stewardship,
00:21:21.370 --> 00:21:23.880
and please do not fire Miss Stebbins
00:21:23.880 --> 00:21:26.350
who has operated in the public interest
00:21:26.350 --> 00:21:28.010
of all California rate payers,
00:21:28.010 --> 00:21:31.680
including vulnerable seniors
and persons with disabilities
00:21:31.680 --> 00:21:34.890
within those core CUPC values.
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I'm not telling you what
to do on any other matter
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of warning or discipline
about a disputed hiring issue,
00:21:41.210 --> 00:21:44.346
but do not fire Miss
Stebbins who operates
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within the public interest.
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Thank you.
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Thank you Miss Arnold.
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Operator, the next caller, please.
00:21:54.410 --> 00:21:55.690
The next caller is
00:21:55.690 --> 00:21:59.590
Richard Skaff, from Designing
Accessible Communities.
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Your line is now open.
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Thank you,
and good morning,
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president Batjer and
members of the Commission.
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I want to first ask,
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and I don't want this to be
part of my two or three minutes,
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whichever you're allowing.
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I want clarification of today's meeting.
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Has, as your Deputy Director
Soul Gomez informed me,
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that item been removed
from today's meeting?
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I'd like an answer before I continue.
00:22:31.500 --> 00:22:32.803
It has been removed?
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Yes, it has.
Thank you.
00:22:37.280 --> 00:22:42.280
I also don't agree with
any possible suggestion
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that Miss Stebbins should be removed
00:22:46.700 --> 00:22:49.350
from her position as Executive Director.
00:22:49.350 --> 00:22:52.590
But I have other things
I wanna talk about also,
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president Batjer.
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Your opening statement, that
the CPUC is closely watching
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both the CAISO,
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the California...
00:23:09.230 --> 00:23:10.810
What is it?
My goodness.
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California Independent System Operator,
00:23:14.230 --> 00:23:17.870
and the electric utilities.
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If that were the case president Batjer,
00:23:20.690 --> 00:23:25.323
on Friday when the
"rolling blackout" started,
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it would have been in
my area in Greenville
00:23:30.220 --> 00:23:31.950
probably an hour or so,
00:23:31.950 --> 00:23:35.010
and then we would have
had our electricity restored.
00:23:35.010 --> 00:23:38.850
We didn't have any electricity
until 11:00 PM that night.
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Five hours without electricity.
00:23:41.840 --> 00:23:45.760
And interestingly enough, I
don't understand how the CPUC
00:23:45.760 --> 00:23:48.910
can be watching over those folks
00:23:48.910 --> 00:23:53.710
when I get a notice the
next day from PG&E saying,
00:23:53.710 --> 00:23:56.620
Oh, we didn't have to notice you
00:23:56.620 --> 00:24:01.620
because the rolling
brownout is not a PSPS.
00:24:02.410 --> 00:24:06.420
Well for those people in California,
00:24:06.420 --> 00:24:10.453
that depend on consistent
electricity, president Batjer,
00:24:11.570 --> 00:24:14.100
it didn't make any difference on Friday
00:24:14.100 --> 00:24:17.940
when that electricity went
out, not as a rolling blackout,
00:24:17.940 --> 00:24:22.940
but as a complete
blackout for five hours.
00:24:23.100 --> 00:24:25.820
Where was the oversight at that time?
00:24:25.820 --> 00:24:30.440
I called numerous people
to find out what PG&E was...
00:24:30.440 --> 00:24:31.570
Because we had no notice.
00:24:31.570 --> 00:24:34.210
What PG&E and others were
gonna be doing about this?
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Local fire departments.
00:24:36.710 --> 00:24:39.390
The Fire Chief for Sonoma County Fire,
00:24:39.390 --> 00:24:41.860
didn't know that there
was gonna be a brownout,
00:24:41.860 --> 00:24:43.960
or that there was actually a brownout
00:24:43.960 --> 00:24:46.400
that we were experiencing.
00:24:46.400 --> 00:24:48.070
A couple of other things,
00:24:48.070 --> 00:24:50.330
besides the fact that
there was no notification
00:24:50.330 --> 00:24:54.100
and PG&E doesn't think it
had to give us any notification.
00:24:54.100 --> 00:24:57.420
And that brings up another
issue about the CAISO.
00:24:57.420 --> 00:25:01.420
What does the Commission
do to oversee that body
00:25:01.420 --> 00:25:03.890
to determine whether they have a policy?
00:25:03.890 --> 00:25:06.930
Do they have a policy that
they have to notify people
00:25:06.930 --> 00:25:08.960
that there's going to be a brownout?
00:25:08.960 --> 00:25:09.793
I don't believe so.
00:25:09.793 --> 00:25:11.190
I'm gonna be calling them today
00:25:11.190 --> 00:25:13.500
and talking to their
management to find out.
00:25:13.500 --> 00:25:18.280
But I want to know why
your agency, president Batjer,
00:25:18.280 --> 00:25:20.880
hasn't determined whether they have
00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:23.603
appropriate and necessary
policies about that.
00:25:27.350 --> 00:25:28.473
Let's see.
00:25:30.340 --> 00:25:34.170
I also am concerned, and I
believe everybody today will,
00:25:34.170 --> 00:25:36.670
mostly everybody, will
talk about the $200 million
00:25:37.650 --> 00:25:40.582
that Miss Stebbins
and her staff have found.
00:25:40.582 --> 00:25:45.477
I think it needs, it requires
that the CPUC be audited.
00:25:46.820 --> 00:25:49.610
I can't understand how $200 million
00:25:50.550 --> 00:25:54.730
could not have been
collected by the CPUC
00:25:54.730 --> 00:25:57.193
since, what was it, 2014.
00:25:58.280 --> 00:25:59.730
This is outrageous.
00:25:59.730 --> 00:26:03.170
What are you doing to protect
the rate payers in California,
00:26:03.170 --> 00:26:07.230
including vulnerable seniors
and people with disabilities?
00:26:07.230 --> 00:26:11.700
So, president Batjer,
00:26:11.700 --> 00:26:13.110
you know us.
00:26:13.110 --> 00:26:14.920
We've spent years talking with you
00:26:14.920 --> 00:26:17.380
at the California Building
Standards Commission,
00:26:17.380 --> 00:26:18.953
unsuccessfully, I might say.
00:26:20.022 --> 00:26:23.290
I really wanna know why,
00:26:23.290 --> 00:26:25.393
because I've worked in a public entity.
00:26:27.250 --> 00:26:32.250
Your suggestion that Miss
Stebbins should be fired
00:26:32.380 --> 00:26:36.400
for inappropriate hiring of employees.
00:26:36.400 --> 00:26:39.037
That's not a firing kind of situation.
00:26:44.244 --> 00:26:47.970
If she in fact did hire incorrectly
00:26:47.970 --> 00:26:50.670
based on the state report,
00:26:50.670 --> 00:26:53.780
then sitting down with the president,
00:26:53.780 --> 00:26:55.580
and having a discussion,
00:26:55.580 --> 00:26:57.290
and putting something in her record,
00:26:57.290 --> 00:26:58.740
would have been appropriate.
00:26:58.740 --> 00:27:02.710
But to fire an Executive
Director that is the only person
00:27:02.710 --> 00:27:06.540
that we have been able
to have interactions with
00:27:06.540 --> 00:27:10.640
that actually resolved
a number of problems
00:27:10.640 --> 00:27:13.503
facing people with disabilities
during power outages,
00:27:14.600 --> 00:27:16.120
that's not acceptable.
00:27:16.120 --> 00:27:18.090
And if you move forward with that,
00:27:18.090 --> 00:27:19.940
at some time in the future,
00:27:19.940 --> 00:27:24.180
there will be very clear
and obvious repercussions.
00:27:24.180 --> 00:27:26.360
I am going to be in touch
with the Governor's office
00:27:26.360 --> 00:27:28.890
and the state legislature to make sure
00:27:28.890 --> 00:27:32.370
that we find out why
all this is happening,
00:27:32.370 --> 00:27:34.930
and why we are not being protected
00:27:34.930 --> 00:27:39.930
when the CAISO calls
for the electric utilities
00:27:41.130 --> 00:27:46.130
to do rolling brownouts
without any notification
00:27:48.550 --> 00:27:52.220
to the most vulnerable
California residents.
00:27:52.220 --> 00:27:53.053
Thank you.
00:27:54.827 --> 00:27:56.307
Thank you Mr Skaff.
00:27:56.307 --> 00:27:58.673
Operator, is there a
next caller, please?
00:27:59.860 --> 00:28:02.060
I'm showing
no further callers.
00:28:03.640 --> 00:28:04.473
Okay.
00:28:04.473 --> 00:28:06.113
Thank you, operator.
00:28:13.893 --> 00:28:15.400
Okay, operator.
00:28:15.400 --> 00:28:16.900
Are there any other calls now?
00:28:19.690 --> 00:28:21.840
Yes, it'll
just be one moment.
00:28:27.626 --> 00:28:28.680
The next caller is Zach Carnizies.
00:28:28.680 --> 00:28:30.103
Your line is now open.
00:28:33.701 --> 00:28:34.650
Hi, my name
is Zach Carnizies.
00:28:34.650 --> 00:28:35.683
Can you all hear me?
00:28:37.055 --> 00:28:38.222
Yes, we can.
00:28:39.170 --> 00:28:41.010
Hi, my name
is Zach Carnizies.
00:28:41.010 --> 00:28:43.720
I'm a disability advocate
in San Francisco,
00:28:43.720 --> 00:28:45.610
and a community organizer.
00:28:45.610 --> 00:28:50.010
I am just appalled at
the accessibility violations
00:28:50.010 --> 00:28:51.600
of trying to get ahold of this meeting.
00:28:51.600 --> 00:28:52.860
I was really concerned.
00:28:52.860 --> 00:28:55.100
I was about to lose my
chance to leave public comment.
00:28:55.100 --> 00:28:57.670
I have dialed star one now three times
00:28:57.670 --> 00:28:59.070
to get through to this body.
00:29:00.304 --> 00:29:01.440
I first of all, want to request
00:29:01.440 --> 00:29:03.890
a video recording of the
public record of this meeting.
00:29:03.890 --> 00:29:05.330
I am a journalist and I am going to be
00:29:05.330 --> 00:29:06.850
publishing this meeting.
00:29:06.850 --> 00:29:08.990
I am deeply concerned with the
00:29:08.990 --> 00:29:11.750
numerous accessibility violations
00:29:11.750 --> 00:29:13.100
try to get ahold of this meeting.
00:29:13.100 --> 00:29:15.340
The calendar showed
an item on the agenda
00:29:15.340 --> 00:29:16.550
that has since been removed.
00:29:16.550 --> 00:29:19.460
And that calendar I checked
on Friday night and on Saturday,
00:29:19.460 --> 00:29:20.740
and it still was...
00:29:20.740 --> 00:29:23.070
So this was the agenda,
that was really hard to find
00:29:23.070 --> 00:29:24.510
searching your home page.
00:29:24.510 --> 00:29:26.150
The calendar as mentioned by
00:29:26.150 --> 00:29:28.970
Hollend Delil, earlier
in public comment,
00:29:28.970 --> 00:29:30.560
was not updated to reflect
00:29:30.560 --> 00:29:34.290
how this meeting was
going to be happening today.
00:29:34.290 --> 00:29:37.990
The phone system has a complex
multi-digit password system,
00:29:37.990 --> 00:29:40.500
that was very
challenging for me to input.
00:29:40.500 --> 00:29:44.090
The call prompt asks
for like your organization,
00:29:44.090 --> 00:29:45.920
and spelling of your name on the phone,
00:29:45.920 --> 00:29:47.320
and all things that are really hard
00:29:47.320 --> 00:29:48.770
for disabled people to do.
00:29:48.770 --> 00:29:50.590
And I also understand
that it's our right
00:29:50.590 --> 00:29:52.410
to leave public comment anonymously,
00:29:52.410 --> 00:29:54.450
and to be representing
ourselves as individuals,
00:29:54.450 --> 00:29:55.980
not an organization.
00:29:55.980 --> 00:29:59.140
Additionally, the calling
system is an English only,
00:29:59.140 --> 00:30:02.170
and does not prompt for
options of other languages.
00:30:02.170 --> 00:30:05.010
Additionally, this video stream
that I'm watching right now
00:30:05.010 --> 00:30:07.670
is not closed captioned
or including options
00:30:07.670 --> 00:30:09.923
for those that are
deaf or hard of hearing.
00:30:10.960 --> 00:30:13.360
The agenda on your
website was really hidden.
00:30:13.360 --> 00:30:16.100
And this whole process
it seems really secretive.
00:30:16.100 --> 00:30:19.380
And I'm really concerned
that what's going on here
00:30:19.380 --> 00:30:22.590
for trying to access this
meeting to give public comment
00:30:22.590 --> 00:30:24.520
is really linked up with the articles
00:30:24.520 --> 00:30:27.950
I've been reading about
corruption with this Commission.
00:30:27.950 --> 00:30:29.440
There's a really interesting article
00:30:29.440 --> 00:30:30.650
in San Francisco Chronicle.
00:30:30.650 --> 00:30:32.430
It's one of our largest newspapers.
00:30:32.430 --> 00:30:34.810
That says a senior CPUC official
00:30:34.810 --> 00:30:37.950
claims she's being ousted
after whistle blowing.
00:30:37.950 --> 00:30:40.010
And it goes into some really, really
00:30:40.010 --> 00:30:43.380
disturbing information
about Alice Stebbins
00:30:43.380 --> 00:30:47.200
uncovering misappropriation of funds
00:30:47.200 --> 00:30:49.460
not being collected from utilities.
00:30:49.460 --> 00:30:53.860
And actually talks about
this having quite a history
00:30:53.860 --> 00:30:58.340
dating back to the 2010
San Bruno explosion
00:30:58.340 --> 00:31:01.520
that PG&E caused,
which killed eight people.
00:31:01.520 --> 00:31:04.167
And PG&E got a little
tiny slap on the wrist,
00:31:04.167 --> 00:31:07.810
$3 million fine, for
killing eight people.
00:31:07.810 --> 00:31:09.350
And I'm wondering what this Commission
00:31:09.350 --> 00:31:11.750
was doing about that and
what they have been doing
00:31:11.750 --> 00:31:16.410
about the 2017 and
2018 massive wildfires
00:31:16.410 --> 00:31:18.520
that PG&E has caused which have caused
00:31:18.520 --> 00:31:20.508
many, many, many deaths.
00:31:20.508 --> 00:31:22.800
Hearing from Richard Skaff on this call
00:31:22.800 --> 00:31:25.090
and other advocates for our community,
00:31:25.090 --> 00:31:27.990
it's deeply disturbing to hear that
00:31:27.990 --> 00:31:30.380
these rolling brownouts
which fortunately
00:31:30.380 --> 00:31:33.063
did not affect me as
much in San Francisco,
00:31:34.280 --> 00:31:36.170
it sounds like you're not
giving notice to people
00:31:36.170 --> 00:31:37.913
that these are happening.
00:31:39.060 --> 00:31:41.570
When people with disabilities have
00:31:41.570 --> 00:31:44.010
a blackout or a
brownout, it's significant.
00:31:44.010 --> 00:31:48.280
That's our ability to charge
our mobility equipment,
00:31:48.280 --> 00:31:52.310
our medical aids, run
lifesaving medical equipment.
00:31:52.310 --> 00:31:54.650
When that stuff gets cut off, we die.
00:31:54.650 --> 00:31:57.670
It's not a small thing.
00:31:57.670 --> 00:31:59.680
So I'm deeply, deeply disturbed
00:31:59.680 --> 00:32:01.210
by the lack of transparency,
00:32:01.210 --> 00:32:03.300
the lack of accessibility
to the meetings,
00:32:03.300 --> 00:32:05.390
on what appears to be some corruption.
00:32:05.390 --> 00:32:08.580
Also, your website says the
public comment three minutes,
00:32:08.580 --> 00:32:10.670
and then now you're
saying it's two minutes,
00:32:10.670 --> 00:32:12.430
and the agenda says it's two minutes.
00:32:12.430 --> 00:32:14.380
There's no consistency
with the way that you
00:32:14.380 --> 00:32:16.620
run these meetings and
how much public comment
00:32:16.620 --> 00:32:18.940
you take and how much time we have.
00:32:18.940 --> 00:32:22.050
It's extremely confusing,
extremely difficult,
00:32:22.050 --> 00:32:24.310
and I really, really hope that you can,
00:32:24.310 --> 00:32:26.630
if at the very least
for the next meeting,
00:32:26.630 --> 00:32:28.800
improve some of these
accessibility issues
00:32:28.800 --> 00:32:31.570
so that all members of
the public can have a say,
00:32:31.570 --> 00:32:33.340
can have a say anonymously,
00:32:33.340 --> 00:32:35.070
can have a say without being tied
00:32:35.070 --> 00:32:36.920
to any specific organization,
00:32:36.920 --> 00:32:39.680
can have accurate
information on your website
00:32:39.680 --> 00:32:42.970
that actually lets us know the
details and what's happening.
00:32:42.970 --> 00:32:46.180
Can have an updated
agenda like the business day
00:32:46.180 --> 00:32:48.120
before the meeting
that actually reflects
00:32:48.120 --> 00:32:50.740
what's going to be
happening in the meeting.
00:32:50.740 --> 00:32:52.570
You know, these are really basic things
00:32:52.570 --> 00:32:55.900
that I've never seen it this bad before
00:32:55.900 --> 00:32:58.630
and I attend public
meetings all the time.
00:32:58.630 --> 00:33:02.250
And this has to be the worst
public meeting advertising
00:33:04.650 --> 00:33:07.580
I've ever seen in my life.
00:33:07.580 --> 00:33:09.730
The worst with accessibility.
00:33:09.730 --> 00:33:11.780
I'm absolutely appalled that this is how
00:33:11.780 --> 00:33:14.800
our California Public Utilities
Commission is operating.
00:33:14.800 --> 00:33:19.800
I'm deeply concerned with
the punishment of a person
00:33:19.860 --> 00:33:22.300
who has spoken up for our
community, Alice Stebbins.
00:33:22.300 --> 00:33:24.950
I'm deeply concerned
what's happening there.
00:33:24.950 --> 00:33:27.030
And retaliation against a whistleblower
00:33:27.030 --> 00:33:30.130
is one of the most
undemocratic unjust things
00:33:30.130 --> 00:33:33.060
that a public department
could possibly do.
00:33:33.060 --> 00:33:34.330
It really is bad.
00:33:34.330 --> 00:33:36.660
And when there's numerous
articles being published
00:33:36.660 --> 00:33:38.870
saying that that's what's happening,
00:33:38.870 --> 00:33:40.320
I don't think it's just hearsay.
00:33:40.320 --> 00:33:42.580
These are reputable news outlets,
00:33:42.580 --> 00:33:47.580
and I would not be here if
this was just small talk hearsay.
00:33:47.710 --> 00:33:50.300
Alice Stebbins has done a great job
00:33:50.300 --> 00:33:52.910
supporting the disability
community and seniors,
00:33:52.910 --> 00:33:56.399
and those who are the
most affected by wildfires,
00:33:56.399 --> 00:33:58.730
the power shutoffs at wildfires cause.
00:33:58.730 --> 00:34:01.570
And let's be real, the
wildfires are caused by PGD.
00:34:01.570 --> 00:34:03.770
It has been proven.
00:34:03.770 --> 00:34:06.500
And I'm concerned that this Commission
00:34:06.500 --> 00:34:08.420
is in the pocket of PG&E,
00:34:08.420 --> 00:34:10.610
is in the pocket of moneyed interests,
00:34:10.610 --> 00:34:13.210
and is not doing their due diligence
00:34:13.210 --> 00:34:15.821
to have an unbiased and just oversight
00:34:15.821 --> 00:34:19.860
of a clearly corrupt department
00:34:19.860 --> 00:34:22.570
that is costing California lives.
00:34:22.570 --> 00:34:24.890
I mean lives, we are dying out here.
00:34:24.890 --> 00:34:26.840
It is not just, I can't watch YouTube,
00:34:26.840 --> 00:34:30.330
or I can't watch Netflix, we are dying.
00:34:30.330 --> 00:34:33.960
Please, please hold these
departments accountable.
00:34:33.960 --> 00:34:36.860
Please keep the staff
that has been helpful.
00:34:36.860 --> 00:34:39.410
Alice Stebbins has been very helpful.
00:34:39.410 --> 00:34:42.340
And please look into some
of these issues of corruption
00:34:42.340 --> 00:34:44.940
and please make these
meetings accessible
00:34:44.940 --> 00:34:47.240
to the general public
so that we can exercise
00:34:47.240 --> 00:34:50.952
our democratic right to
leave public comment.
00:34:50.952 --> 00:34:53.700
Again, I asked for a video
recording of this meeting.
00:34:53.700 --> 00:34:55.630
This is for public record,
00:34:55.630 --> 00:34:58.240
and I will be contacting
your staff for that.
00:34:58.240 --> 00:34:59.860
Thank you.
00:34:59.860 --> 00:35:00.693
Thank you.
00:35:01.830 --> 00:35:03.530
Operator, the next caller, please.
00:35:04.610 --> 00:35:06.820
The next
caller is David McCord.
00:35:06.820 --> 00:35:08.960
Your line is now open.
00:35:08.960 --> 00:35:10.440
This is David McCord.
00:35:10.440 --> 00:35:12.040
And I'm speaking for myself,
00:35:12.040 --> 00:35:15.620
I'm a rate payer and El Cerrito.
00:35:15.620 --> 00:35:19.320
And I've read that the state
personnel and boards report
00:35:19.320 --> 00:35:21.841
on the CPUC's hiring practices
00:35:21.841 --> 00:35:26.283
and president Batjer's reply.
00:35:27.340 --> 00:35:31.690
The description of the
examination and hiring process
00:35:31.690 --> 00:35:34.980
for a certain hires is complex.
00:35:34.980 --> 00:35:36.750
There are uncertainties
00:35:36.750 --> 00:35:39.720
as to how the process was carried out.
00:35:39.720 --> 00:35:42.590
The board has not
proved that the process
00:35:42.590 --> 00:35:44.933
was not carried out in good faith.
00:35:45.790 --> 00:35:49.800
With these uncertainties I
feel it would be premature
00:35:49.800 --> 00:35:54.367
to dismiss your Executive
Director on these shaky grounds.
00:35:54.367 --> 00:35:55.200
Thank you.
00:35:56.550 --> 00:35:57.700
Thank you, Mr Mccord.
00:35:58.820 --> 00:36:02.019
Operator, is there
anybody else on the line?
00:36:02.019 --> 00:36:03.193
Yes.
00:36:03.193 --> 00:36:05.060
The next caller is Michael Blanquito.
00:36:05.060 --> 00:36:06.313
Your line is now open.
00:36:09.226 --> 00:36:14.226
I'm also a rate payer
of San Jose water company.
00:36:15.150 --> 00:36:18.370
And I'm calling for also calling out
00:36:18.370 --> 00:36:20.840
what appears to be corruption.
00:36:20.840 --> 00:36:24.880
There was a merger
between San Jose water...
00:36:24.880 --> 00:36:26.780
Actually, an acquisition between
00:36:26.780 --> 00:36:30.300
San Jose Water holding company
00:36:30.300 --> 00:36:33.400
and Connecticut Water Services.
00:36:33.400 --> 00:36:35.320
We had lobbied local representatives
00:36:35.320 --> 00:36:38.660
to get them to require
an application for this.
00:36:38.660 --> 00:36:41.440
CPUC's general
council issued a directive
00:36:41.440 --> 00:36:43.130
for an application.
00:36:43.130 --> 00:36:44.540
There were closed door meetings.
00:36:44.540 --> 00:36:46.410
All of a sudden it turned into an
00:36:46.410 --> 00:36:47.313
OYII1807007.
00:36:53.090 --> 00:36:56.250
The whole proceeding seemed
like it was basically a sham.
00:36:56.250 --> 00:36:58.760
And it's real easy to point that
00:36:58.760 --> 00:37:03.740
the ALJ's proposed
decision was recently issued,
00:37:03.740 --> 00:37:06.220
and no protections were
provided for Californians
00:37:07.850 --> 00:37:11.470
regarding this grossly
inflated acquisition.
00:37:11.470 --> 00:37:16.460
The acquisition was
purportedly 1.1 billion.
00:37:16.460 --> 00:37:21.460
There are 626 million mow in SJW groups
00:37:21.890 --> 00:37:26.610
income or their financials in
non-income producing goodwill.
00:37:26.610 --> 00:37:30.140
There's 510 million in debt.
00:37:30.140 --> 00:37:32.210
Some of that, the service was just made,
00:37:32.210 --> 00:37:36.640
the debt service is just
made for Q2 of 2020.
00:37:36.640 --> 00:37:39.130
And then San Jose Water recently filed
00:37:39.130 --> 00:37:42.730
an application for an
additional 350 million
00:37:42.730 --> 00:37:44.540
in debt and equity.
00:37:44.540 --> 00:37:47.403
And that's a 2004009.
00:37:51.290 --> 00:37:55.400
There was no way SJW Group
was gonna be able to afford
00:37:55.400 --> 00:37:59.350
this acquisition at that
price, under these terms.
00:37:59.350 --> 00:38:01.000
Nothing was looked at.
00:38:01.000 --> 00:38:02.820
Now the proposed decision says,
00:38:02.820 --> 00:38:05.300
don't worry about it, everything's fine.
00:38:05.300 --> 00:38:08.410
But yet the regulators
in Connecticut and Maine
00:38:08.410 --> 00:38:09.840
provided all sorts of protections.
00:38:09.840 --> 00:38:12.600
And it's 80 different
protections for that.
00:38:12.600 --> 00:38:15.060
While the OII was ongoing,
00:38:15.060 --> 00:38:18.350
the terms of the acquisition
changed multiple times,
00:38:18.350 --> 00:38:22.740
and during that time there
was a discovery motion
00:38:22.740 --> 00:38:24.760
during the most recent application
00:38:24.760 --> 00:38:27.010
with the regulators in
Connecticut and Maine.
00:38:28.210 --> 00:38:30.713
At that time, the OII was suspended.
00:38:32.050 --> 00:38:33.190
Commissioner Peterman,
00:38:33.190 --> 00:38:35.290
who's now working
for one of the utilities
00:38:35.290 --> 00:38:38.487
that she used to regulate,
Southern California Edison.
00:38:38.487 --> 00:38:43.487
I don't know what role she
had in and suspending that.
00:38:43.660 --> 00:38:45.520
But since that suspension,
00:38:45.520 --> 00:38:48.450
there hasn't been any decisions
on the discovery motions,
00:38:48.450 --> 00:38:51.920
or motions from San Jose
city who was a party to that.
00:38:51.920 --> 00:38:55.620
I was a party and an
organization I belong to
00:38:55.620 --> 00:38:57.400
was also a party to that.
00:38:57.400 --> 00:39:00.400
This sets an alarming
precedent and roadmap
00:39:00.400 --> 00:39:02.750
for other water utilities to basically
00:39:02.750 --> 00:39:04.880
grossly inflate other acquisitions
00:39:04.880 --> 00:39:07.763
and lead to the quick
privatization of our water supply.
00:39:09.770 --> 00:39:12.890
Besides the 510 in new debt,
00:39:12.890 --> 00:39:15.960
there was about 430
million in new equity.
00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:18.640
And prior to announcing the acquisition,
00:39:18.640 --> 00:39:21.250
San Jose or SJW group increased their
00:39:21.250 --> 00:39:24.586
dividend payout ratio by about 40%.
00:39:24.586 --> 00:39:29.390
There's no way SJW is
not going to going to pay
00:39:29.390 --> 00:39:31.470
for that unless they're...
00:39:39.680 --> 00:39:41.480
Operator, is there
another caller?
00:39:45.280 --> 00:39:47.463
I'm showing
no further callers.
00:39:50.485 --> 00:39:55.485
Okay.
00:40:02.850 --> 00:40:04.910
So, thank you operator.
00:40:04.910 --> 00:40:07.050
With no further callers on the line,
00:40:07.050 --> 00:40:09.313
the public comment period now is closed.
00:40:10.560 --> 00:40:11.620
Thank you.
00:40:11.620 --> 00:40:15.740
Item one on the regular
agenda has been withdrawn.
00:40:15.740 --> 00:40:18.110
There is no consent agenda items,
00:40:18.110 --> 00:40:20.043
and there's no management reports.
00:40:21.710 --> 00:40:24.698
We are now at the Commission
reports on the agenda.
00:40:24.698 --> 00:40:28.420
Do any of the Commissioners
have a report to make?
00:40:28.420 --> 00:40:30.520
Just raise your hand
and I'll call on you.
00:40:32.240 --> 00:40:34.280
Being none, I can't see
00:40:34.280 --> 00:40:37.600
Commissioner Randolph
or Commissioner Guzman,
00:40:37.600 --> 00:40:39.770
so you'll have to speak up.
00:40:39.770 --> 00:40:41.633
I have no
report, thank you.
00:40:42.540 --> 00:40:43.373
Okay.
00:40:43.373 --> 00:40:45.153
I have no report either.
00:40:45.990 --> 00:40:48.343
So with that,
00:40:55.440 --> 00:41:00.340
the public portion of this
meeting today is now adjourned.
00:41:00.340 --> 00:41:01.173
Thank you.
00:41:06.469 --> 00:41:07.460
Thank you.